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  • olufemig
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    • Feb 2023
    • 45

    #1

    underlying not tradeable

    hello,

    Without editing any of the strategies for this paper trade, i have different AT NOW figures... how come?


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    also, any reason why i see the below pop up with SPX? not sure why it says SPX is not tradeable. thanks

    Last edited by olufemig; 06-09-23, 20:23.
  • Cagalli Tiziano
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 11252

    #2
    Originariamente Scritto da olufemig
    hello,

    Without editing any of the strategies for this paper trade, i have different AT NOW figures... how come?


    [ATTACH=CONFIG]24500[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]24501[/ATTACH]

    also, any reason why i see the below pop up with SPX? not sure why it says SPX is not tradeable. thanks

    SPX is a non-tradeable index. You cannot buy or sell SPX.
    The software is asking you want to add a future in case you need it for your strategy, maybe later in time.

    At Now: Go back to General and then to Comparison. Maybe 1 tick changed meanwhile switching between windows
    ..se corri dietro a due lepri, non ne prendi nemmeno una.

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    • olufemig
      Member

      • Feb 2023
      • 45

      #3
      Originariamente Scritto da Cagalli Tiziano
      SPX is a non-tradeable index. You cannot buy or sell SPX.
      The software is asking you want to add a future in case you need it for your strategy, maybe later in time.

      At Now: Go back to General and then to Comparison. Maybe 1 tick changed meanwhile switching between windows
      Thanks.. thats odd with SPX. Its definitely tradeable with options and cash settled.. or maybe i should be looking for a different symbol. i dont see SPXW either so not sure why this index isnt showing up. i use IBKR.

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      • Francario Massimiliano
        Administrator
        • Jul 2008
        • 1033

        #4
        Hello,

        Originariamente Scritto da olufemig
        Thanks.. thats odd with SPX. Its definitely tradeable with options and cash settled.. or maybe i should be looking for a different symbol. i dont see SPXW either so not sure why this index isnt showing up. i use IBKR.
        you selected the SPX Index as underlying symbol for your strategy. You cannot Buy 1 SPX Index, but you can Buy 1 SPX Future.
        Options are quoted on the Index, thus you selected the right symbol for options strategies.
        In case you need to negotiate the SPX, not it\'s options, you must use an SPX future, and that is exactly what beeTrader is asking you.

        Max Francario
        Manuale di beeTrader
        Manuale di Fiuto Beta

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        • olufemig
          Member

          • Feb 2023
          • 45

          #5
          Originariamente Scritto da Francario Massimiliano
          Hello,



          you selected the SPX Index as underlying symbol for your strategy. You cannot Buy 1 SPX Index, but you can Buy 1 SPX Future.
          Options are quoted on the Index, thus you selected the right symbol for options strategies.
          In case you need to negotiate the SPX, not it\'s options, you must use an SPX future, and that is exactly what beeTrader is asking you.

          Max Francario
          ok..got it.. i guess its just advice.
          thxs

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          • Cagalli Tiziano
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 11252

            #6
            Originariamente Scritto da olufemig
            ok..got it.. i guess its just advice.
            thxs
            guessed !
            ..se corri dietro a due lepri, non ne prendi nemmeno una.

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            • olufemig
              Member

              • Feb 2023
              • 45

              #7
              Originariamente Scritto da Cagalli Tiziano
              guessed !
              yes, the pop up message i meant. i guess its advising me that its not tradeable in case i may have been thinking of it

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              • Cagalli Tiziano
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 11252

                #8
                Originariamente Scritto da olufemig
                yes, the pop up message i meant. i guess its advising me that its not tradeable in case i may have been thinking of it
                exact but not only: imagine that a trader has programmed beeTrader to hedge an option using an Index. beeTrader executes the instructions but hedging will not be performed.
                ..se corri dietro a due lepri, non ne prendi nemmeno una.

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                • olufemig
                  Member

                  • Feb 2023
                  • 45

                  #9
                  Originariamente Scritto da Cagalli Tiziano
                  exact but not only: imagine that a trader has programmed beeTrader to hedge an option using an Index. beeTrader executes the instructions but hedging will not be performed.

                  thats true, very good point.. thanks for sharing ... on hedging i have a question...

                  so lets say i have a debit spread on that goes against me slightly, can the hedging feature show me different ways of reducing my risk as much as possible but staying in the trade ( using options only), instead of just closing it for a loss ?

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                  • Cagalli Tiziano
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 11252

                    #10
                    Originariamente Scritto da olufemig
                    thats true, very good point.. thanks for sharing ... on hedging i have a question...

                    so lets say i have a debit spread on that goes against me slightly, can the hedging feature show me different ways of reducing my risk as much as possible but staying in the trade ( using options only), instead of just closing it for a loss ?
                    yes, you can decide to hedge the spread using related ETFs for example. beeTrader will calculate when and how many to use. The topic is complex but it is possible. Also using options.
                    ..se corri dietro a due lepri, non ne prendi nemmeno una.

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                    • olufemig
                      Member

                      • Feb 2023
                      • 45

                      #11
                      Originariamente Scritto da Cagalli Tiziano
                      yes, you can decide to hedge the spread using related ETFs for example. beeTrader will calculate when and how many to use. The topic is complex but it is possible. Also using options.
                      sounds good.. i\'m inteested in scenarios where, say in my call debit spread i can use calls or puts to hedge the trade if its going against me .. prefer this to using ETFs and [i may even be simpler

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